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ISC - Owner Threatens Critics

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  -----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harris <tekscout@>
To: INVENTORS@
Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: INVENTION SUBMISSION CORPORATION

Mr. Martin Berger wrote the following"

>I am the President of Invention Submission Corporation (ISC).  You have
>both published false information about me on your website on July 27,
>1998.  You state,
>
>“The Listerine Case is thrown up by Martin Berger, of ISC, as an example
>to tell his prospective scam victims that they do not need to seek
>patent protection or see a patent professional.”
>
>I do not throw up this case and I have no scam victims.  And by no means
>do we advise people not to seek patent protection.  In fact, most ISC
>clients do seek patent protection.  You have directly libeled me.  I
>have never committed any scam.  Nor has ISC.  To the contrary ISC is one
>of the few invention companies in the U.S. complying with federal and
>state regulations.

Mr. Berger, I must take exception here.  Should we take a stroll through
history to the archives of the early 90's, and search for court-related material
relating directly to ISC? This is publically available, and never is a long,
long, time!

>You are also disseminating other information about ISC that is
>misleading.  No one has any “sufficient evidence to create a class
>action suit.”  This is without any merit.  No one has been harmed by
>ISC.  ISC is the most open and fair dealing invention company in the
>U.S.  We reveal all of our prices, statistics and disclaimers up front
>pursuant to federal regulation.  We strictly enforce the highest
>consumer standards in the industry.

Mr. Berger, apparently there are those within the invention community
that would once again take exception to the litany above.  I personally
have knowledge of perhaps twenty inventors who definitely feel they
have been defrauded by ISC, and the strange thing is the number is
growing daily!

>I expect you to retract your false and misleading information from the
>Internet about me and ISC.  If not, I will take appropriate legal steps
>against you.  I am all for free speech, but you have crossed over the
>line of truth.

I don't need to remind you sir that truth goes hand-in-hand with justice.
Whether their is libel involved within this list, or whether you are
merely a victim of your own greed, remains for the courts of our land to
sift out.  I suggest threats made on a public forum invite response, and
you have threatened both our friend Mr. Bergquist, and the collective
intelligence that freely describes problems such as you on this
Listserver.  I would say sir that you have crossed over the line, merely
by sticking your head in something that is good, decent and fair.  Stick
with your show INPEX, there are quickly becoming viable alternatives to
companies such as ISC.

  -----Original Message-----
From: Paul Friederichs <NPaulF@>
To: INVENTORS@
Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: INVENTION SUBMISSION CORPORATION

In a message dated 98-11-04 14:11:52 EST, you write:

<< You are also disseminating other information about ISC that is
misleading.  No one has any “sufficient evidence to create a class
action suit.”  This is without any merit.  No one has been harmed by
ISC.  ISC is the most open and fair dealing invention company in the
U.S.  We reveal all of our prices, statistics and disclaimers up front
pursuant to federal regulation.  We strictly enforce the highest
consumer standards in the industry.>>

These statements seem WAY beyond the bounds of credibility and may be false
advertising.  "Most open and fair dealing...?"  What do you consider to be an
"invention company?"  Do you have data to back up your statement.  Let's see
it.

<< I expect you to retract your false and misleading information from the
Internet about me and ISC.  If not, I will take appropriate legal steps
against you.  I am all for free speech, but you have crossed over the
line of truth.

Sincerely >>


I have known Don to seek to publish the truth and to do his best in that
regard.  (You may disagree, but others may disagree with you.)  Perhaps
instead opinionated banter, we might get down to hard facts.  Brag it up.
What percent of the inventors you serve make more money from having worked
with you than they pay to you?


N. Paul Friederichs
www.angnehm.com
Patent Atty. # 36,515
MPLS, MN

  -----Original Message-----
From: Andy Gibbs <andy@>
To: INVENTORS@
Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: INVENTION SUBMISSION CORPORATION

Mr. Berger,

Are you opposed to posting your statistics here at Invent NET?

Independent inventors here are obviously concerned about how to spend their
limited capital, and since ISC presents ideas to industry, it would help to
know precisely how many inventor successes ISC has been responsible for;
that is, how many inventors you have received money from have earned more in
royalites than what they paid your firm.

Since ISC deals openly, surely you have no objection to sharing this
information with us.

Andy Gibbs

  -----Original Message-----
From: Ronald J. Riley <rjriley@>
To: INVENTORS@
Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: INVENTION SUBMISSION CORPORATION

You are full of B*** S***.  I suggest that ISC's subscription to this list
should be terminated.  The FTC documents and numerous complaints from
inventors tell a different story.  I suggest ISC should crawl back into
their den.  Any further threats will be forwarded to every media contact I
have, and I do have some really great media contacts.  I very much doubt
that ISC can survive the disinfecting light of media attention.

Ronald J. Riley  www.rjriley.com

  -----Original Message-----
From: Victor Lavrov <vic@>
To: INVENTORS@
Date: Thursday, November 05, 1998 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: INVENTION SUBMISSION CORPORATION

Martin,

I am amazed that your gost is trying to spook our place 3 days after
Halloween.  BOO!!

I am sure that you got more than enough candies with your nice TV ads - why
Invent NET?

Do you have your own email address?  If yes, use it!
You'll find first hand (as if you didn't know) what others are thinking
about your services.

I am all for free speech myself ( that's why your message was posted ).
I don't agree with everything that people are posting here too.
As a recent example: I don't agree with your message - but I've posted it.

The main idea conveyed by your message is NOT that "poor" ISC is wrongfully
attacked, BUT beware of the "rich" ISC owner that will sue anyone or anybody
that don't keep quiet.

I have also received not long ago a copy of your letter to S. Pal Asija -
not nice Martin.
If I add this two events it seems to me that you are starting an offensive
against your critics.

If you have some real facts proving that ISC is not an Inventor Scamming
Corporation please make them available to all of us.   But, don't try to
intimidate our subscribers with your legal staff.


Victor Lavrov
President

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